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  Can you be a JW who does not have the GB as their leader?

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....

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  You've been peddling the same nonsense here for over a decade, circling back with different accounts after having been banned countless times.

  
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  Can you be a JW who does not have the GB as their leader?

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....

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  DoubtingThomas

  Either you're a troll, or the most brainwashed Jehovah's Witness ever born. Please give me your info on which congregation you attend. I will ask the elders about your spirituality, hours in field service, and why an upstanding Witness like you is on a forum like this.

  DON'T BORE US WITH YOUR PABLUM! IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANS, LOOK IT UP IN THE DICTIONARY!
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  Moses, Pharaoh and the Exodus Fairytale

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  exodus 7. .

  new king james version.

  moses before pharaoh.

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  Pharaoh: The man with two hearts who couldn't make up his mind.

  Exodus 7 Living Bible
  

  3 But I will cause Pharaoh to stubbornly refuse, and I will multiply my miracles in the land of Egypt. 4 Yet even then Pharaoh won’t listen to you; so I will crush Egypt with a final major disaster and then lead my people out. 5 The Egyptians will find out that I am indeed God when I show them my power and force them to let my people go.”

  Exodus 8
  

  19 “This is the finger of God,” they exclaimed to Pharaoh. But Pharaoh’s heart was hard and stubborn, and he wouldn’t listen to them, just as the Lord had predicted.

  Exodus 10
  27 So the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he would not let them go.

  Now, Pharaoh starts changing his tune with all the plagues upon the Egyptian people:

  Exodus 12
  

  31 And Pharaoh summoned Moses and Aaron during the night and said, “Leave us; please go away, all of you; go and serve Jehovah as you said. 32 Take your flocks and herds and be gone; and oh, give me a blessing as you go.”[f] 33 And the Egyptians were urgent upon the people of Israel, to get them out of the land as quickly as possible. For they said, “We are as good as dead.”

  Exodus 13
  

  17-18 So at last Pharaoh let the people go.

  The Lord hardens Pharaoh's heart another time...so the Lord will get all the honor and glory

  4 And once again I will harden Pharaoh’s heart and he will chase after you. I have planned this to gain great honor and glory over Pharaoh and all his armies, and the Egyptians shall know that I am the Lord.”

  If Pharaoh's heart wouldn't change so much, this would of never happened:
  26 When all the Israelites were on the other side,[k] the Lord said to Moses, “Stretch out your hand again over the sea, so that the waters will come back over the Egyptians and their chariots and horsemen.” 27 Moses did, and the sea returned to normal beneath the morning light. The Egyptians tried to flee, but the Lord drowned them in the sea. 28 The water covered the path and the chariots and horsemen. And of all the army of Pharaoh that chased after Israel through the sea, not one remained alive.
  
  
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  Moses, Pharaoh and the Exodus Fairytale

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  exodus 7. .

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  moses before pharaoh.

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  Exodus 7

  New King James Version

  
  

  Moses Before Pharaoh

  7 So the Lord said to Moses: “See, I have made you as God to Pharaoh, and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet. 2 You shall speak all that I command you. And Aaron your brother shall tell Pharaoh to send the children of Israel out of his land. 3 And I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and multiply My signs and My wonders in the land of Egypt. 4 But Pharaoh will not heed you, so that I may lay My hand on Egypt and bring My [a]armies and My people, the children of Israel, out of the land of Egypt by great judgments. 5 And the Egyptians shall know that I am the Lord, when I stretch out My hand on Egypt and bring out the children of Israel from among them.”

  13 And Pharaoh’s heart grew hard, and he did not heed them, as the Lord had said.

  14 So the Lord said to Moses: “Pharaoh’s heart is hard; he refuses to let the people go. 15 Go to Pharaoh in the morning, when he goes out to the water, and you shall stand by the river’s bank to meet him; and the rod which was turned to a serpent you shall take in your hand. 16 And you shall say to him, ‘The Lord God of the Hebrews has sent me to you, saying, “Let My people go, that they may [d]serve Me in the wilderness”; but indeed, until now you would not hear!

  
  

  Why doesn't the Lord just 'soften his heart' so he frees the slaves or lets them go? The Lord plays with Pharaohs attitude to make more people suffer, just to punish the Egyptians for the Pharaoh's bad attitude.

  Why does the Lord need to prove that I AM THE LORD to mortal men? Why does the Lord react with anger knowing what the final outcome will be? What choice did the Pharaoh have after the Lord hardens his heart and refuses to budge?

  
  
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  David Splane...''Put Up a Hard Fight for the Faith''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  david splane comes out firing and is relentless as to the reasons why christianity was brought down.

  christianity was not broken down by persecution, but by false brothers and apostate teachings.

  today, jehovah's witnesses face the same danger from false brothers and apostates.

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  Does anyone have a link to Splanes talk?

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/2021Convention/pub-co-r21_137_VIDEO
  
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  Elders hounding members to quit their jobs due to missing too many meetings

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.

  my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.

  he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.

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  Workers get tired of bailing out and subsidizing entitled co workers. If you have to work every Saturday morning because Jehovah’s Witness Johnny has field service you just might look for a different job. This terrifies your employer as he doesn’t want to cover every weekend either.

  My brother is an elder. When he went out to look for employment, he would always tell the hiring manager that he was a Jehovah's Witness. That meant that he couldn't work late on Monday's and Wednesday's. He couldn't work on Sunday's because he needed to attend meetings. He also needed a certain week off for summer conventions. Most companies wouldn't hire him with all those stipulations. The company that did hire him gave in to all the rules, but within time they made him work on a few of his meeting nights. He quit after they decided they wouldn't give in to all his rules on when he could or couldn't work.
  
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  Elders hounding members to quit their jobs due to missing too many meetings

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.

  my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.

  he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.

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  But, yet there is no accountability in this sick religion. It’s nothing but chaos.

  After 40 years in, I witnessed all the drama, backstabbing, rumors, divorces, cheating, a physical fight inside the Kingdom Hall, spankings of small children where no one said a word, members who would change congregations due to conflicts with Elders, heated words on the podium from one Elder to another Elder, spousal abuse, disfellowshipping, brothers who were contractors who were shady even to fellow members, Elders who favored family when it came down to appointments for Ministerial Servants and new Elders, loans that were never paid to fellow members ...where Elders were called to step in, Elder wives blabbering everything they knew that was happening in the congregation, members who took and sold drugs, and alcoholics.
  
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  Elders hounding members to quit their jobs due to missing too many meetings

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.

  my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.

  he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.

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  I had noticed just about all the older Witnesses telling me to quit my job were either well established in the workforce or already collecting their pensions! But yet these hypocrites had the balls to promote poverty for some younger person. There is no forgiveness for them, in my book.

  My congregation had two Elders who ran a construction company. They would buy lots in the North Shore of Illinois and build homes from $400,000 and up. They had sub-contractors for most of their work. They would leave early on meeting days, take time off for assemblies, and even had the time to pioneer several times a year. They both had money, owned time shares and dressed in expensive suits.

  It was painful to watch these asshole Elders harass and hound the welder to quit his job ( who knew he was lucky to have a job that paid well). The welder retired years ago with a good pension.
  
  

  
  
  
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  Elders hounding members to quit their jobs due to missing too many meetings

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.

  my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.

  he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.

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  How many times did you see Elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?

  My brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old. He would miss Tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule. The Elders had a talk with my mom. They felt that since he was still living at home, and didn't need to support himself, he should quit his job. My mom made my brother quit his job.

  One brother was always being pressured to quit his 2nd shift factory job because he missed too many meetings. This brother had no high school education. His employer liked him so much, they paid his way to a trade school to become a welder. He was being paid over $30 an hour with plenty of overtime. He never quit his job, even with the pressure and hounding of the Elders.

  Another brother ( a ministerial servant) worked in construction, and would miss meetings due to working late. His employer wouldn't let him leave early on meeting nights. The Elders threatened to remove him as a ministerial servant if he kept on missing meetings. He finally quit his job due to the threat. Luckily, his wife worked to help support the family. It took months before he found another job.
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  David Splane...''Put Up a Hard Fight for the Faith''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  david splane comes out firing and is relentless as to the reasons why christianity was brought down.

  christianity was not broken down by persecution, but by false brothers and apostate teachings.

  today, jehovah's witnesses face the same danger from false brothers and apostates.

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  https://salvationcall.com/apostates/

  Apostates are those who have committed apostasy. Apostates used to be followers of Jesus, but they ceased to be followers along the line. Apostates are devout Christians who have abandoned Christianity and are no more Christians.

  
  Taking this Scripture into consideration, if at any point in time, a Christian turns away from the truth or true doctrines and embraces false doctrines, he ceases to be a true worshipper and child of God; rather, he becomes an apostate. Those Christians who become apostate by embracing and practicing false doctrines do not become unbelievers as we understand the term unbelievers, for they still maintain that they are Christians, and that they are part of the Christendom, and that they believe in Jesus, and that they teach from the Bible; at least they may have few opinions about Jesus or few Biblical doctrines that are true.
  

  However, they have quite a number of false doctrines that contradict the core beliefs of the Christian faith. Christians who apostatize by embracing false doctrines form a category of apostates who are well known as heretics. Heretics are a category of apostates who either believe and practice entirely false doctrines or they believe and practice a synthesis of true and false doctrines. Heretics teach their false doctrines to other Christians and non-Christians alike to convert them to become heretics.

  One notable heretic in recent history is Charles Taze Russell, founder of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Russel managed to teach his false doctrines to others and won as many as possible to start the denomination which is now called Jehovah’s Witnesses. Though Jehovah’s Witnesses has many unbiblical doctrines, they still count themselves as Christians. Other examples are Joseph Smith, founder of Latter-Day Saints.